Beamsonic impulses are back !

[Lenoir]

The  famous impulses are back online, thanks to Unidyn. Download them, share them, make mirrors... in one and only word : enjoy !

http://noox.sitesled.com

[unidyn]

Nice of you to host these, but my only contribution was to keep them moving in a positive direction. Another generous person was kind enough to send them to me, so without him, all we'd have are testimonies of how people have them and lots of disappointment because no one is sharing them. I often wonder why people say things like "Yeah, I have those, but I better not...".  If someone waves food in front of my face and immediately retracts, I'm taking their arm off at the elbow.   Is it an insecurity issue that makes some want to taunt others? Oh well, that's a behavioral health issue, not an audio one . 

Besides, as a child, I remember reading about this very same thing in The Bible.  It was beautiful then and it brings tears to my eyes as I recall it again.  I believe it was Exodus 8:1:

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him,
thus saith the LORD, Let My Impulses Go, that they may serve me."

[Lenoir]

"So let it be written, so let it be done...."

[McLilith]

I often wonder why people say things like "Yeah, I have those, but I better not...".  If someone waves food in front of my face and immediately retracts, I'm taking their arm off at the elbow.   Is it an insecurity issue that makes some want to taunt others? Oh well, that's a behavioral health issue, not an audio one .

As one of the people who have all the Beamsonic impulses, and as someone who refused to redistrubute the impulses without official permission from Beamsonic, I'm slightly annoyed by your insinuation that I have "insecurity issues" or "behavioral health issues". I simply respect the intellectual property rights of others, as I would hope others would do for any work I might publish. It's called "being respectful" -- of both the original artist's intellectual property rights and of the law. Just because the files were available to the general public at no charge from Beamsonic's web site, doesn't automatically grant anyone the right to redistribute them.

If you can't understand and accept that simple explanation, the problem is yours, not mine.


take care,
McLilith

[Lenoir]

McLilith, you can be sure that I'm mirroring these files because I have a huge respect for Nic's work. Just consider these two facts :

- There's such a  hype about these impulses (see Aleksey's Boogex for example) that some people are ready to pay for them. This is considered as 'suspect' in my moral system.
- If you ever share your work with telling people "go on, get these and do whatever you want with them !" you can be sure (if it is good, of course ) that it may be publicly shared, played, remixed and so on a couple of years later. This was not happening with Nic's impulses (except for Boogex) and with such a material it is considered as 'shameful' in my moral system.

So, if you have all of them, maybe you can check if they are all mirrored and mail me 'anonymously' the missing ones if there are any ?

Thanks in advance for the community. 

[Burrito]

From a strictly legal point of view, the individual(s) behind the name Beamsonic/Biemel or whatever, owns and retains the copyright - with or without any copyright notice - including, but not limited to, copying, distributing, and creating derivative work from the files. A digital .txt or .nfo file that says "this is freeware" does not change that (again strictly legal). The copyright owner (or his heirs!) can still take you to court up to 70 years after the original copyright owner's death. Without a signed and witnessed copyright release form or an equivalent license agreement, one had better think twice...

Look out: Kill Joy was here!

P.S. Because I've seen it all too often: there's a BIG difference between copyright and copywrite!!

[giancarlo]

Thank you...

[cAPSLOCK]

Great!!! It is good this little bit of impulse history could be kept from the grave!

Unidyn, would you mind if I enshrine them here in the NV archives and credit you and Beamsonic for their survival?  I can also add a link to the site.

cAPS

[joe rosenbloom]

thx B. for the snide spelling correction, glad i could help you feel intelligent. i guess you don't get a lot of that in your offline life. for the record: i do know how to spell copyrite, i was just typing hurriedly and had a brain fart

[unidyn]

Great!!! It is good this little bit of impulse history could be kept from the grave!

Unidyn, would you mind if I enshrine them here in the NV archives and credit you and Beamsonic for their survival?  I can also add a link to the site.

cAPS, I'm pleased you approve, but all credit for these being resurrected is due to JR, as he made it all possible.  I just asked for them, posted my email, he saw it and kindly sent them to me (what a concept). All I did was the same for Lenoir, but instead of coming to the forum and saying

As one of the people who have all the Beamsonic impulses...

, then saying you can't have them, I chose do something worthwhile by just sending them.  My good, my bad, whatever.  It got done and that is a choice I made. If they don't belong somewhere, I'm confident they'll be politely asked to be removed and without a heavy hand.   They're on their way and for the good of all.  Thanks JR, and you as well cAPS 

[unidyn]

Ok, this may only add fuel to the fire, but a rebuttal is in order.

As one of the people who have all the Beamsonic impulses, and as someone who refused to redistrubute the impulses without official permission from Beamsonic, I'm slightly annoyed by your insinuation that I have "insecurity issues" or "behavioral health issues".

If you go to the original thread, JR openly asked if someone would please send them to him.  You didn't refuse until you volunteered that you had them!  What was the purpose in claiming possession of them if you had no intention of sharing? Wouldn't it be easier to step aside and allow others to respond to the call? Did you feel a moral obligation to point out a potential copyright issue?  The people here are grown, self-thinking adults.  Given those reasons, you are certainly free to make any comment on anything you want. I am also free to say when I feel it is non sequitur and an attempt to put the kibutz on someone else's agenda.  It brings to mind another member I regretfully apologized to because they took offense that I called them rightly so for similarly promoting fear of copyright infringement on another forum member, which that member pulled a link on his site. I wish I'd never volunteered to have that thread removed because it was just another demonstration of how some people feel a need to get unnecessarily involved, as if some imaginary citizenship trophy will be awarded to them.  THAT is what I think is annoying.  Those were the kids that got pounded at the school I went to (not that I was involved in any of that ).  Sorry if you disagree, no ill will intended.  Life is tuff, so get a helmet my friend and be prepared to be told when someone doesn't care for what you do too

[Burrito]

thx B. for the snide spelling correction, glad i could help you feel intelligent. i guess you don't get a lot of that in your offline life. for the record: i do know how to spell copyrite, i was just typing hurriedly and had a brain fart

Joe,
My post wasn’t a personal attack on you or anyone else. It wasn’t referring to any particular post. It’s just that discussions about copyright tend to become confusing when people are discussing one issue, but mixing up their terminology and are in fact talking about two very different things.

As for the legal lecture, I was merely pointing out the fact that anyone hosting or distributing files without being 100% sure that it is OK with the copyright owner, is taking a risk - albeit more or less  likely to occur.

I apologize if I have unintentionally insulted you or anyone else with my post. That wasn’t my intention at all. Personal attacks and insults contributes very little to a discussion.

- B.

[joe rosenbloom]

B, I promise that I don't live to take offense from people I don't even know. I admit it was silly and possibly rude to respond the way I did. This post is silly. But when you say "...mixing up their terminology and are in fact talking about two very different things" I would like to know what the other thing I (or anyone else) might have been talking about. I can't find "copywrite" in my dictionary, and if there is no such word (or if it has a clearly different meaning), then you can't really say there was a crying need to clear up any confusion. In that case (and maybe I'm wrong, happens every day) I would stand by my "snide" characterization, which is not the worst of crimes, and I'm sorry that such a small thing has wasted so much typing. Mine mostly! I'll say no more about it, and all the best to you.

[Burrito]

With the risk of looking like a Besserwisser again...

From www.answers.com


Copywrite
Copywrite is:

1. Copywriting -- To write advertising copy, the promotional message for a company or idea
2. A misspelling of copyright
3. Copywrite, a hip-hop artist.
4. A project management tool for writers for Mac OS X, written by Bartas Technologies (http://www.bartastechnologies.com).

Copywriting is the process of writing a piece of literature with the object of promoting a person, business, opinion, or idea. It may be used as plain text, as a radio or television advertisement, or in a variety of other media. The main purpose of this type of writing this marketing copy, or promotional text, is to persuade the listener or reader to act -- to buy a product or ascribe to a certain viewpoint, for instance.

Copywriters are employees or independent contractors whose job is to create copy. They generally work in advertising, marketing, or similar promotional fields.

On websites, copywriting may also refer to the methods of writing and wording used to achieve higher rankings in search engines. This includes the strategic placement and repetition of keywords and keyword phrases on webpages.


And Joe, I'm cool if you're cool!
- B.

[joe rosenbloom]

Hey B, it's all good, and I have no idea what a Besserwisser is, but I'm sure you're not one
Thanks for the info, and for making my small point for me: There's no connection between "copywrite" and "copyright" in the context of this discussion that could possibly have caused any confusion. But good for you for pointing out the very real difference. Stay vigilant bro.